Comments on: MAD MEN: “The Gypsy and the Hobo” http://www.heroinetv.com/2009/10/28/mad-men-the-gypsy-and-the-hobo/ "Thank god we're hot chicks with super powers!" Wed, 08 Feb 2012 08:04:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: heroine_tv http://www.heroinetv.com/2009/10/28/mad-men-the-gypsy-and-the-hobo/comment-page-1/#comment-639 heroine_tv Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:24:54 +0000 http://www.heroinetv.com/?p=2451#comment-639 Well you're certainly not alone in being an addict :) Hehe. I agree with you about Jon Hamm and Don. I <em>want</em> him to be better, and I used to think he <em>was</em> better, so there's definitely room for redemption. It's just that this season for the first time, his charm wore thin, and I saw the really unlikeable aspects of his behavior. I hope he takes a break from his affairs for awhile--I'm sick of those story-lines. I definitely don't want to see a divorce, and I don't think the show will go there ... hopefully. And I agree about poor Sal. I'm still broken-hearted about that. Don's comment "you people" was definitely upsetting. Well you’re certainly not alone in being an addict :) Hehe.

I agree with you about Jon Hamm and Don. I want him to be better, and I used to think he was better, so there’s definitely room for redemption. It’s just that this season for the first time, his charm wore thin, and I saw the really unlikeable aspects of his behavior. I hope he takes a break from his affairs for awhile–I’m sick of those story-lines. I definitely don’t want to see a divorce, and I don’t think the show will go there … hopefully.

And I agree about poor Sal. I’m still broken-hearted about that. Don’s comment “you people” was definitely upsetting.

]]> By: Sara http://www.heroinetv.com/2009/10/28/mad-men-the-gypsy-and-the-hobo/comment-page-1/#comment-638 Sara Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:04:22 +0000 http://www.heroinetv.com/?p=2451#comment-638 I am still stunned by Hamm ...His face and demeanor ...It's a though a whole new character has entered the show. Cold cool Don is still there but now a nervous, upset tentative and revealing Don too. I totally agree with you about the "who are you " question in the show. I just feel like that card was so perfectly played. I know you don't like Don but I still find myself rooting for him to be a noble character. While his ongoing infedelity to Bettty is completly offensive I was more troubled by his behavior towards Sal. It was the first outwardly cruel thing I've seen him do, (not that cheating and on your wife isn't cruel but it was not as in your face as his behavior towards Sal) Jones was completely phenominal in this episode too. Of course if she stays the course and Don doesn't transform I just don't know if I have the stomach to watch them get a divorce. Well as always I appreciate your insights and don't quite know what to do with myself now that I am an addict... I am still stunned by Hamm …His face and demeanor …It’s a though a whole new character has entered the show. Cold cool Don is still there but now a nervous, upset tentative and revealing Don too. I totally agree with you about the “who are you ” question in the show. I just feel like that card was so perfectly played. I know you don’t like Don but I still find myself rooting for him to be a noble character. While his ongoing infedelity to Bettty is completly offensive I was more troubled by his behavior towards Sal. It was the first outwardly cruel thing I’ve seen him do, (not that cheating and on your wife isn’t cruel but it was not as in your face as his behavior towards Sal) Jones was completely phenominal in this episode too. Of course if she stays the course and Don doesn’t transform I just don’t know if I have the stomach to watch them get a divorce.

Well as always I appreciate your insights and don’t quite know what to do with myself now that I am an addict…

]]> By: heroine_tv http://www.heroinetv.com/2009/10/28/mad-men-the-gypsy-and-the-hobo/comment-page-1/#comment-628 heroine_tv Thu, 29 Oct 2009 01:13:28 +0000 http://www.heroinetv.com/?p=2451#comment-628 Yeah, as for the bookend, it seems like it was lacking in this episode. The beginning and end were pretty much opposites. But perhaps it could be the suitcases leaving, versus the suitcases returning? Also, gypsies and hobos are wanderers, travelers, and so the Halloween costumes could be an echo of the two trips at the beginning of the episode. Perhaps? Ultimately, Don chooses to stay put, rather than walk out the door, so this episode, filled with travelers, kind of marks an end to all his running away--literally and figuratively. What really stood out to me, was the parallel between the middle of the episode, when Betty wonders who Don really is and whether she knows him at all, and the same sentiment repeated at the end of the episode. You make a lot of good points regarding class consciousness and personal growth/ maturity. I think Joan's husband DID have a growing awareness of his uselessness, and that's EXACTLY why he joined the army. Also, good point about Betty behind her father's desk--very cool. Yeah, as for the bookend, it seems like it was lacking in this episode. The beginning and end were pretty much opposites. But perhaps it could be the suitcases leaving, versus the suitcases returning? Also, gypsies and hobos are wanderers, travelers, and so the Halloween costumes could be an echo of the two trips at the beginning of the episode. Perhaps? Ultimately, Don chooses to stay put, rather than walk out the door, so this episode, filled with travelers, kind of marks an end to all his running away–literally and figuratively.

What really stood out to me, was the parallel between the middle of the episode, when Betty wonders who Don really is and whether she knows him at all, and the same sentiment repeated at the end of the episode.

You make a lot of good points regarding class consciousness and personal growth/ maturity. I think Joan’s husband DID have a growing awareness of his uselessness, and that’s EXACTLY why he joined the army. Also, good point about Betty behind her father’s desk–very cool.

]]> By: Sara http://www.heroinetv.com/2009/10/28/mad-men-the-gypsy-and-the-hobo/comment-page-1/#comment-626 Sara Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:51:15 +0000 http://www.heroinetv.com/?p=2451#comment-626 Ahh Lucia yes the way you retell the story I just love it!!! There's too much to say 1.Class Consciousness a. Dog food lady to Roger (and Jane) b. Don to hat in the car lady c. Betty to Don (I know you were poor I see how you handle money...) d.Jerk face Dr to fabulously smart Joan 2.Personal Growth/ Maturity a. Roger finally being faithful (to Jane..to Joan either way it's a step) b.Don has some moments of self awareness and actually shows real emotion c.Betty grows up (a great little forshadowing is her sitting behind her father's desk in charge) d. Is it a strech to think the Jerk Dr had any awareness of his uselessness...maybe but he does finally do something... Oh I have to go pick up Gianna but I will read through your blog again because there is so much in this episode to comment on... What were our bookend in this episode? What comes t mind is at the start Betty is packing to go home at the end we see Betty has 3 suitcases out...for someone to leave home???? Sort it out for me Cia.. Ahh Lucia yes the way you retell the story I just love it!!! There’s too much to say

1.Class Consciousness
a. Dog food lady to Roger (and Jane)
b. Don to hat in the car lady
c. Betty to Don (I know you were poor I see how you handle money…)
d.Jerk face Dr to fabulously smart Joan

2.Personal Growth/ Maturity
a. Roger finally being faithful (to Jane..to Joan either way it’s a step)
b.Don has some moments of self awareness and actually shows real emotion
c.Betty grows up (a great little forshadowing is her sitting behind her father’s desk in charge)
d. Is it a strech to think the Jerk Dr had any awareness of his uselessness…maybe but he does finally do something…

Oh I have to go pick up Gianna but I will read through your blog again because there is so much in this episode to comment on…

What were our bookend in this episode? What comes t mind is at the start Betty is packing to go home at the end we see Betty has 3 suitcases out…for someone to leave home????

Sort it out for me Cia..

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